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Suhail Naqvi, (at 5:19PM Saturday 22nd of December 2007, GMT)

I agree with Maryam almost completely. What a waste of half the intelligence of our society! But as Bhai Ikram pointed out, there may be many families in which decision makers comprise of both men and women. As as Ram pointed out, economics is perhaps contributing to change in the right direction. Personally, I think education is the fulcrum at which this issue rests. By education I do not mean simply acquiring university degrees, I am talking about the education one acquires by witnessing progress in more equitable societies.

Suhail
Woodbridge, NJ

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Maryam Jahan, (at 10:16PM Saturday 15th of December 2007, GMT)

Ideally we should have balance between women and men. But there is no doubt that we come from a male dominated society. But I am heartened by changing attitude of our men.

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safia Khan, (at 4:36PM Wednesday 5th of December 2007, GMT)

It is good to see that there is agreement between Razia and Ikram.

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Ikram Naqvi, (at 2:51PM Wednesday 5th of December 2007, GMT)

I agree with you Razia.

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Razia Naqvi, (at 5:10PM Tuesday 27th of November 2007, GMT)

Interesting choice of words Ram ‘Battle of the sexes”!!! This has been the problem. We as women are not fighting with you we are only trying to let the men know that we are here to ‘play our role’ as the other half of that family unit-an equal half!

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Ram Chand, (at 4:59PM Tuesday 27th of November 2007, GMT)

Enjoying this topic. Battle of the sexes have been going for centuries.I agree in eqaulity between sexes but we come from a male dominated society. Enlightend men are changing with time. With economic pressure more women are working
which gives them more leverage.

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Nargis Siddiqui, (at 8:03PM Sunday 25th of November 2007, GMT)

I can relate to Safia’comments about Urdu.My mother alo tried very hard. Unfortunately I did not make the best of the opportunity. I regret it now.Love to hear from others.

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Ikram Naqvi, (at 11:45AM Sunday 25th of November 2007, GMT)

I can relate to Safia’s nani’s role with my own mother.My parents had a very happy marriage.It looked as though they divived their roles. My father earned the money.My mother was the “Home Minister”.I am sure that they would have had discussions on major matters. Surley that is the key for a successful marriage.Communication and “give and take” was their way.

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safia Khan, (at 11:44AM Sunday 25th of November 2007, GMT)

Maryam in response to your comment about raising children in the west, keeping ones language alive is a huge challenge. I remember my mother spending an inordinate amount of time teaching us URDU. Her language was very precious to her. Yes, as youngsters we also tended to respond in English but understood her well. Later growing up we began to talk in Urdu, the seeds had been sown by her.Returning often to the homeland is very helpfull.Those that can do that are very lucky One of my biggest challenges has been to teach ‘respect’ as we know it.I have been fairly successfull in this regard and I am often greeted with “Adab Mum”! That gives me so much pleasure.

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Maryam Jahan, (at 1:07AM Sunday 25th of November 2007, GMT)

I agree with Safia that even economic indipendence may not be enough on its own to give women equal status. Women will have to continue to fight.Things are changing in the right direction.What do you think?

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safia Khan, (at 6:04PM Saturday 24th of November 2007, GMT)

It is great that we now have a womens discussion group!Let me just say that even economic independance does not eliminate ‘male dominance.’
Social and cultural evolution is progressing much faster for wemen then men even in the western societies. Until men accept that women are not subordinates ‘so called equality’is never going to happen.We have a long way to go but we will get there. Hope and persistence is eternal.My daughters will reap the harvest. Looking forward to responses from Maryam and Nargis and other comments.

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Nargis Siddiqui, (at 1:16AM Saturday 24th of November 2007, GMT)

I agree with Safia and Maryam. Women can achieve a lot by using their guile but education resulting in economic indipendence is important.Ideally women and men should respect each other.

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Nargis Siddiqui, (at 1:16AM Saturday 24th of November 2007, GMT)

I agree with Safia and Maryam. Women can achieve a lot by using their guile but education resulting in economic indipendence is important.Ideally women and men should respect each other.

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Maryam Jahan, (at 12:57AM Saturday 24th of November 2007, GMT)

Bringing up children in west has not been easy.Encuraging them to keep our values has been the most difficult.My children understand Urdu but respond mostly in english.Would love to know how others cope?

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safia Khan, (at 12:00AM Saturday 24th of November 2007, GMT)

I appreciate your response and we probably are in agreement on this issue. I noticed that you did not respond to my question. Looking forward to your response

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